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	<title>Comments on: Fate/stay night Heavens Feel route &#8211; a Broken Dream and a Broken Girl</title>
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		<title>By: Lynx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lynx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, very late comment, but I really enjoyed your review. Heaven&#039;s Feel is also my favorite route of the VN.
Concerning some comments made here, I don&#039;t quite agree with some. Sure, some people may decide which route they like better based just on which one focuses more on their favorite character, but that&#039;s not the case for me. I&#039;m a big fan of Archer, Lancer and Gilgamesh, so, following this logic UBW should be my favorite route, but it&#039;s actually my 2nd fave. What makes HF better for me is the story. In my opinion, it&#039;s the most well written between the 3. It&#039;s also the most tearjerking. And even if it doesn&#039;t have quite as much action as UBW, I still think it is the route with some of the most epic moments in the entire VN (Nine Lives Blade Works, Kotomine in general, the best bad ends[Mind of Steel, Sparks Liner High and the last one with dark sakura], the entire conflict in the einzbern forest, the last day, etc), and the final conflict just feels much more grand.

Maybe i&#039;m just a sucker for darker stories, but HF just appeals more to me. The only real problem I have with it are the 3 days where almost nothing happens besides sex and some interludes. But even then, it was necessary to make room for the climax.
Also, I REALLY thought Shirou&#039;s ideal was... Well, stupid, so I preferred his mature self from HF. It&#039;s better to fight for something which will actually take you somewhere than...Ending up like Archer. Yeah.
Once again, excellent review.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, very late comment, but I really enjoyed your review. Heaven&#8217;s Feel is also my favorite route of the VN.<br />
Concerning some comments made here, I don&#8217;t quite agree with some. Sure, some people may decide which route they like better based just on which one focuses more on their favorite character, but that&#8217;s not the case for me. I&#8217;m a big fan of Archer, Lancer and Gilgamesh, so, following this logic UBW should be my favorite route, but it&#8217;s actually my 2nd fave. What makes HF better for me is the story. In my opinion, it&#8217;s the most well written between the 3. It&#8217;s also the most tearjerking. And even if it doesn&#8217;t have quite as much action as UBW, I still think it is the route with some of the most epic moments in the entire VN (Nine Lives Blade Works, Kotomine in general, the best bad ends[Mind of Steel, Sparks Liner High and the last one with dark sakura], the entire conflict in the einzbern forest, the last day, etc), and the final conflict just feels much more grand.</p>
<p>Maybe i&#8217;m just a sucker for darker stories, but HF just appeals more to me. The only real problem I have with it are the 3 days where almost nothing happens besides sex and some interludes. But even then, it was necessary to make room for the climax.<br />
Also, I REALLY thought Shirou&#8217;s ideal was&#8230; Well, stupid, so I preferred his mature self from HF. It&#8217;s better to fight for something which will actually take you somewhere than&#8230;Ending up like Archer. Yeah.<br />
Once again, excellent review.</p>
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		<title>By: Thess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 21:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Never did anything to improve her situation.&quot;

Such a disgusting victim-blaming.

Go read something about domestic abuse before you open your mouth again. Educate yourself. Specially when someone was subjected to it since they were five years old. 

What would Rin do? Oh, fare worse than Sakura, because she&#039;s much weak-willed as one bad ending shows it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Never did anything to improve her situation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Such a disgusting victim-blaming.</p>
<p>Go read something about domestic abuse before you open your mouth again. Educate yourself. Specially when someone was subjected to it since they were five years old. </p>
<p>What would Rin do? Oh, fare worse than Sakura, because she&#8217;s much weak-willed as one bad ending shows it.</p>
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		<title>By: Thess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:49:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fate route isn&#039;t the route of FSN, honestly... It&#039;s a multiverse. Check it out before making stuff up.

In fact, Nasu said: &quot;Even if seems that many people voted pairing Shirou with Saber, I think that for Shirou, Sakura comes first.&quot;

Either way, I think the girls fit Shirou in each scenario. Fate isn&#039;t the &#039;real&#039; one, they are all real, they are different dimensions.

Heaven&#039;s Feel Shirou is COMPLETELY unfit for Saber. Hell, doesn&#039;t he kill her?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fate route isn&#8217;t the route of FSN, honestly&#8230; It&#8217;s a multiverse. Check it out before making stuff up.</p>
<p>In fact, Nasu said: &#8220;Even if seems that many people voted pairing Shirou with Saber, I think that for Shirou, Sakura comes first.&#8221;</p>
<p>Either way, I think the girls fit Shirou in each scenario. Fate isn&#8217;t the &#8216;real&#8217; one, they are all real, they are different dimensions.</p>
<p>Heaven&#8217;s Feel Shirou is COMPLETELY unfit for Saber. Hell, doesn&#8217;t he kill her?</p>
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		<title>By: Gilgamesh92</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilgamesh92</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2011 06:00:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You must be blind or something if you think the relationship between Shirou and Rin isn&#039;t love. How do you know the only pair Ilya likes is Saber and Shirou. Saber fanboys these days... BTW Fate route isn&#039;t the true route of FSN, seriously stop making up things on your own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You must be blind or something if you think the relationship between Shirou and Rin isn&#8217;t love. How do you know the only pair Ilya likes is Saber and Shirou. Saber fanboys these days&#8230; BTW Fate route isn&#8217;t the true route of FSN, seriously stop making up things on your own.</p>
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		<title>By: Thess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 03:31:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;After an eternity of death and despair, Shirou Emiya still loves Tohsaka Rin. How can you read UBW (and even his shorter farewell in HF) and not realize this? Where do you get this idiotic idea that they will somehow be driven apart?&quot;

Not sure if... serious?

Archer doesn&#039;t love Rin romantically... Archer comes from a future/past where he loved neither Rin nor Saber (the ditched Illya route).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;After an eternity of death and despair, Shirou Emiya still loves Tohsaka Rin. How can you read UBW (and even his shorter farewell in HF) and not realize this? Where do you get this idiotic idea that they will somehow be driven apart?&#8221;</p>
<p>Not sure if&#8230; serious?</p>
<p>Archer doesn&#8217;t love Rin romantically&#8230; Archer comes from a future/past where he loved neither Rin nor Saber (the ditched Illya route).</p>
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		<title>By: 龙龙 FReD</title>
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		<dc:creator>龙龙 FReD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jul 2011 11:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I prefer Fate route to Heavens Feel route, Heavens Feel route is a very sad and beautiful story~ Do you know the Last Episode?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I prefer Fate route to Heavens Feel route, Heavens Feel route is a very sad and beautiful story~ Do you know the Last Episode?</p>
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		<title>By: Orisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 09:47:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes that&#039;s weird that Ilya wasn&#039;t able to do something for Sakura. I wasn&#039;t trying to provide an explanation, just that it is sad Nasu didn&#039;t write something about that.

And well sorry if I wasn&#039;t clear, I said that I wasn&#039;t a fan of Sakura, not that I didn&#039;t like her. She is not my favorite character but I like her, except her voice.

And yes about the luck of Rin and Shiro I was talking in overall term, since it&#039;s the bad habit, in my opinion, of Sakura&#039;s fans to always compare her life with the others. In that regard Heaven&#039;s feel does the same thing: you finish this arc and you realise that in the two others arc, there will always be the problem of Sakura, no matter how well your story has ended. 
(And I have no problem with that, I&#039;m just observing facts)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes that&#8217;s weird that Ilya wasn&#8217;t able to do something for Sakura. I wasn&#8217;t trying to provide an explanation, just that it is sad Nasu didn&#8217;t write something about that.</p>
<p>And well sorry if I wasn&#8217;t clear, I said that I wasn&#8217;t a fan of Sakura, not that I didn&#8217;t like her. She is not my favorite character but I like her, except her voice.</p>
<p>And yes about the luck of Rin and Shiro I was talking in overall term, since it&#8217;s the bad habit, in my opinion, of Sakura&#8217;s fans to always compare her life with the others. In that regard Heaven&#8217;s feel does the same thing: you finish this arc and you realise that in the two others arc, there will always be the problem of Sakura, no matter how well your story has ended.<br />
(And I have no problem with that, I&#8217;m just observing facts)</p>
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		<title>By: Cherry Lover</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cherry Lover</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, there&#039;s no real good reason why Ilya couldn&#039;t remove Sakura&#039;s soul from her body and put it elsewhere (she does it often enough to &lt;i&gt;Shirou&lt;/i&gt;), and for that matter, given her ability to keep Shirou alive as only a head in the first Bad End, I find it hard to believe that she couldn&#039;t do &lt;i&gt;something&lt;/i&gt; to stop the worms from harming Sakura further, especially once Kotomine had operated.

As for Sakura&#039;s voice, well, that seems to me to be a pretty trivial reason to not like a character, TBH.  Personally, I like Sakura&#039;s voice (it fits her well), but even if I didn&#039;t it wouldn&#039;t make me dislike her as a character. And, yes, she is &lt;i&gt;extraordinarily&lt;/i&gt; strong.

And, yeah, I&#039;d agree that Rin and Shirou aren&#039;t particularly lucky overall, but in terms of their magical abilities, they &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt;, in terms of both what they were born with and the way that they were brought up, which is what I &lt;i&gt;think&lt;/i&gt; Altima was getting at there. Sakura was likely born with similar abilities to Rin, but whereas Rin&#039;s was nurtured by her father (albeit at the expense of her humanity and childhood), Sakura&#039;s was totally wasted by Tokiomi&#039;s stupidity and unwillingness to train her and Zouken&#039;s attempts to turn her into a Matou (and she didn&#039;t get a childhood &lt;i&gt;either&lt;/i&gt;).

*Edit* Hmm, I didn&#039;t see Altima&#039;s comment there before I posted mine. Ah, well, never mind....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, there&#8217;s no real good reason why Ilya couldn&#8217;t remove Sakura&#8217;s soul from her body and put it elsewhere (she does it often enough to <i>Shirou</i>), and for that matter, given her ability to keep Shirou alive as only a head in the first Bad End, I find it hard to believe that she couldn&#8217;t do <i>something</i> to stop the worms from harming Sakura further, especially once Kotomine had operated.</p>
<p>As for Sakura&#8217;s voice, well, that seems to me to be a pretty trivial reason to not like a character, TBH.  Personally, I like Sakura&#8217;s voice (it fits her well), but even if I didn&#8217;t it wouldn&#8217;t make me dislike her as a character. And, yes, she is <i>extraordinarily</i> strong.</p>
<p>And, yeah, I&#8217;d agree that Rin and Shirou aren&#8217;t particularly lucky overall, but in terms of their magical abilities, they <i>are</i>, in terms of both what they were born with and the way that they were brought up, which is what I <i>think</i> Altima was getting at there. Sakura was likely born with similar abilities to Rin, but whereas Rin&#8217;s was nurtured by her father (albeit at the expense of her humanity and childhood), Sakura&#8217;s was totally wasted by Tokiomi&#8217;s stupidity and unwillingness to train her and Zouken&#8217;s attempts to turn her into a Matou (and she didn&#8217;t get a childhood <i>either</i>).</p>
<p>*Edit* Hmm, I didn&#8217;t see Altima&#8217;s comment there before I posted mine. Ah, well, never mind&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: AoG</title>
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		<dc:creator>AoG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 21:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, first off, I fail to see how the worms would interfere with a soul transfer. It&#039;s really a quite good solution to the problem of Angra Mainyu. No host, no possession.

Actually, she is really lucky. At least with her training, she got some kind of benefit from it, and proper instruction on not to hurt herself. Sure it was hard, but not above what you&#039;d expect from someone trying to perfect an art. The game shows us that Sakura had none of that, and her magical alignment changed, which makes it even harder  for her to use magic now than before. Rin had no such problem. It was pride and her trying to deceive herself into thinking she could even compare to the sufferings Sakura went through (for no benefit) in order to distance herself from the girl to escape the guilt she feels. 

But yes, you&#039;re right, she is really clumsy, the issue here is that this clumsiness has consequences.

Also, it is fine for you not to like Sakura, but I like to put things into perspective. 
As for loneliness, I&#039;ll give you that she lives alone, but she seems to have been active in school activities. She goes shopping regularly with Makidera, who has a comabtive relationship with her, she has Ayako, and a host of people</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, first off, I fail to see how the worms would interfere with a soul transfer. It&#8217;s really a quite good solution to the problem of Angra Mainyu. No host, no possession.</p>
<p>Actually, she is really lucky. At least with her training, she got some kind of benefit from it, and proper instruction on not to hurt herself. Sure it was hard, but not above what you&#8217;d expect from someone trying to perfect an art. The game shows us that Sakura had none of that, and her magical alignment changed, which makes it even harder  for her to use magic now than before. Rin had no such problem. It was pride and her trying to deceive herself into thinking she could even compare to the sufferings Sakura went through (for no benefit) in order to distance herself from the girl to escape the guilt she feels. </p>
<p>But yes, you&#8217;re right, she is really clumsy, the issue here is that this clumsiness has consequences.</p>
<p>Also, it is fine for you not to like Sakura, but I like to put things into perspective.<br />
As for loneliness, I&#8217;ll give you that she lives alone, but she seems to have been active in school activities. She goes shopping regularly with Makidera, who has a comabtive relationship with her, she has Ayako, and a host of people</p>
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		<title>By: Orisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Orisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Feb 2011 09:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t think about getting Sakura a new body. One line would dismiss this possibilty, like &quot;with all these worms, extracting Sakura from this body would kill her&quot; or something, but there isn&#039;t any canon explaination unfortunetaly.

And well , I&#039;m not a fan of Sakura. I think the main problem I have with her is her soft voice: a pain. But I agree that she is the strongest in her on way.

Howewer  I don&#039;t agree with Shiro and Rin being lucky honestly. If we compare with Sakura, yes definitely they are luckier but almost every character in FSN have an awful past. The Rin&#039;s training was quite harsh(again, nothing as terrible as Sakura but harsh nonetheless), she has grown alone, Kotomine being her only regular social contact for many years. If she is clumsy when she interacts with Shiro in UBW or Sakura in HF, that&#039;s not only because of her personality but also because of her childhood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t think about getting Sakura a new body. One line would dismiss this possibilty, like &#8220;with all these worms, extracting Sakura from this body would kill her&#8221; or something, but there isn&#8217;t any canon explaination unfortunetaly.</p>
<p>And well , I&#8217;m not a fan of Sakura. I think the main problem I have with her is her soft voice: a pain. But I agree that she is the strongest in her on way.</p>
<p>Howewer  I don&#8217;t agree with Shiro and Rin being lucky honestly. If we compare with Sakura, yes definitely they are luckier but almost every character in FSN have an awful past. The Rin&#8217;s training was quite harsh(again, nothing as terrible as Sakura but harsh nonetheless), she has grown alone, Kotomine being her only regular social contact for many years. If she is clumsy when she interacts with Shiro in UBW or Sakura in HF, that&#8217;s not only because of her personality but also because of her childhood.</p>
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