Comments on: On Rabu-Rabu [part one]: The Beauty of the Conflict http://blog.eternicity.net/2008/12/14/on-rabu-rabu-part-one-the-beauty-of-the-conflict/ In search of anime enlightenment Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:25:27 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: ETERNAL http://blog.eternicity.net/2008/12/14/on-rabu-rabu-part-one-the-beauty-of-the-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-1890 ETERNAL Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:40:30 +0000 http://memories-of-eternity.com/?p=1149#comment-1890 @ Blowfish: Thanks! @ Bluesnow: I read the Kare Kano manga from where the anime left off (classic Gainax'd ending), and I enjoyed it immensely as well. Arima's arc reminded me quite a bit of the darker moments of Furuba as well 0_o @ Blowfish: Thanks!

@ Bluesnow: I read the Kare Kano manga from where the anime left off (classic Gainax’d ending), and I enjoyed it immensely as well. Arima’s arc reminded me quite a bit of the darker moments of Furuba as well 0_o

]]> By: Bluesnow http://blog.eternicity.net/2008/12/14/on-rabu-rabu-part-one-the-beauty-of-the-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-1009 Bluesnow Sat, 20 Dec 2008 00:17:46 +0000 http://memories-of-eternity.com/?p=1149#comment-1009 Nice read=3 As someone who likes Romance anime myself~ I generally only classify it as Romance if it makes me cry once from Drama breaking outxD So I agree that conflict is the heart of the story. If you have not Read the manga Or watched the anime (Anime only covers the comedy/Brief intro to the manga)~ KARE KANO~ I highly Suggest you do. It is in my opinion the core of what every romance story should try to be. For one the story itself is very realistic (for the most partxD)~ So the Conflicts that arise are believable... Actually some of them feel way too close to home o.o... For two... The question "What is love" is raised... And alot of other emotionally DEEP DEEP issues which actually start getting REALLY Dark... but love itself is the small light holding everything together by a small thread... Take the family problems in Furuba and multiply them by like... at least 3 xD And the emotional development of the characters... Take Takemoto from Honey and clover and multiply by like 5... I cried way too many times to Kare Kano o.o Nice read=3

As someone who likes Romance anime myself~ I generally only classify it as Romance if it makes me cry once from Drama breaking outxD So I agree that conflict is the heart of the story.

If you have not Read the manga Or watched the anime (Anime only covers the comedy/Brief intro to the manga)~ KARE KANO~ I highly Suggest you do. It is in my opinion the core of what every romance story should try to be. For one the story itself is very realistic (for the most partxD)~ So the Conflicts that arise are believable… Actually some of them feel way too close to home o.o… For two… The question “What is love” is raised… And alot of other emotionally DEEP DEEP issues which actually start getting REALLY Dark… but love itself is the small light holding everything together by a small thread… Take the family problems in Furuba and multiply them by like… at least 3 xD And the emotional development of the characters… Take Takemoto from Honey and clover and multiply by like 5… I cried way too many times to Kare Kano o.o

]]> By: Blowfish http://blog.eternicity.net/2008/12/14/on-rabu-rabu-part-one-the-beauty-of-the-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-382 Blowfish Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:34:10 +0000 http://memories-of-eternity.com/?p=1149#comment-382 Pretty good essay! ghostlightning summed it up pretty well so ill just leave it at this: Good job! <abbr><em><abbr><em>Blowfishs last blog post..<a href="http://www.flyingpussyfoot.com/2008/12/17/nose-art-girl/" rel="nofollow">Nose Art Girl</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> Pretty good essay!
ghostlightning summed it up pretty well so ill just leave it at this:
Good job!

Blowfishs last blog post..Nose Art Girl

]]> By: ETERNAL http://blog.eternicity.net/2008/12/14/on-rabu-rabu-part-one-the-beauty-of-the-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-380 ETERNAL Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:00:05 +0000 http://memories-of-eternity.com/?p=1149#comment-380 @ animekritik: ...Actually, yeah, that's a much easier way of putting it. I'll have to keep that in mind if I ever talk about this again ;P @ M12: For me, the strength of the conflict makes the moments when it finally works out even more "aww"-worthy xD @ ghostlightning: A short but concise way of summarizing the train of thought. By using a few simple elements in the story, several different forms of conflicts can be created that turn the narrative into more of a storyline and less of, as you said, a news report. It would then culminate into a scenario in which the Geass ended up harming the leads rather than helping them, leaving the viewers discussing (and probably analyzing) how the power of Geass was able to overcome the power of love and resulted in the tragedy. It's a bizarre situation, but it illustrates the point clearly. @ animekritik: …Actually, yeah, that’s a much easier way of putting it. I’ll have to keep that in mind if I ever talk about this again ;P

@ M12: For me, the strength of the conflict makes the moments when it finally works out even more “aww”-worthy xD

@ ghostlightning: A short but concise way of summarizing the train of thought. By using a few simple elements in the story, several different forms of conflicts can be created that turn the narrative into more of a storyline and less of, as you said, a news report. It would then culminate into a scenario in which the Geass ended up harming the leads rather than helping them, leaving the viewers discussing (and probably analyzing) how the power of Geass was able to overcome the power of love and resulted in the tragedy. It’s a bizarre situation, but it illustrates the point clearly.

]]> By: THAT Animeblog - On “Character” IV: Lead Paradigm Binary http://blog.eternicity.net/2008/12/14/on-rabu-rabu-part-one-the-beauty-of-the-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-379 THAT Animeblog - On “Character” IV: Lead Paradigm Binary Tue, 16 Dec 2008 04:17:14 +0000 http://memories-of-eternity.com/?p=1149#comment-379 [...] ETERNAL gets at this nicely: This is where I believe conflict lies at the heart of our enjoyment - because conflict, in a love story, is the embodiment of the feelings that the characters share for one another, and these are the feelings that the viewer draws from the story. [...] [...] ETERNAL gets at this nicely: This is where I believe conflict lies at the heart of our enjoyment – because conflict, in a love story, is the embodiment of the feelings that the characters share for one another, and these are the feelings that the viewer draws from the story. [...]

]]> By: ghostlightning http://blog.eternicity.net/2008/12/14/on-rabu-rabu-part-one-the-beauty-of-the-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-377 ghostlightning Mon, 15 Dec 2008 13:37:42 +0000 http://memories-of-eternity.com/?p=1149#comment-377 Back in school we were taught that without conflict, the narrative is a news report and not literary. Boy meets girl. They fall in love. They get married. They die in a plane crash... along with 200 other people. Conflict makes a story out of this narrative. The couple's families are opposed to their union (it becomes the couple vs. the world). The female lead uses Geass powers to resolve the conflict so they get married. Male lead finds out about such abuse of powers so he tries to call it off (lead vs. lead). She geasses him, conflict resolved. On their honeymoon their plane was piloted by one of the wedding guests who got geassed. His memories of piloting were adversely impacted which caused the crash. The story sucks, but I intended to illustrate how conflict generates the drama in the story. So what's the central conflict in the narrative? Is it love vs. Geass powers? Back in school we were taught that without conflict, the narrative is a news report and not literary.

Boy meets girl.
They fall in love.
They get married.
They die in a plane crash…
along with 200 other people.

Conflict makes a story out of this narrative. The couple’s families are opposed to their union (it becomes the couple vs. the world). The female lead uses Geass powers to resolve the conflict so they get married. Male lead finds out about such abuse of powers so he tries to call it off (lead vs. lead). She geasses him, conflict resolved. On their honeymoon their plane was piloted by one of the wedding guests who got geassed. His memories of piloting were adversely impacted which caused the crash.

The story sucks, but I intended to illustrate how conflict generates the drama in the story. So what’s the central conflict in the narrative? Is it love vs. Geass powers?

]]> By: M12 http://blog.eternicity.net/2008/12/14/on-rabu-rabu-part-one-the-beauty-of-the-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-376 M12 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 08:48:07 +0000 http://memories-of-eternity.com/?p=1149#comment-376 Very nice. Conflict drives any story. But you know, with romance, I like it when things work out. You know, just so you can be like, "aww". If that makes sense XD. <abbr><em><abbr><em>M12s last blog post..<a href="http://vjutsu.com/?p=432" rel="nofollow">M13 Hates Overpricing</a></em></abbr></abbr></em> Very nice. Conflict drives any story. But you know, with romance, I like it when things work out. You know, just so you can be like, “aww”. If that makes sense XD.

M12s last blog post..M13 Hates Overpricing

]]> By: animekritik http://blog.eternicity.net/2008/12/14/on-rabu-rabu-part-one-the-beauty-of-the-conflict/comment-page-1/#comment-375 animekritik Mon, 15 Dec 2008 04:27:31 +0000 http://memories-of-eternity.com/?p=1149#comment-375 That makes sense. Conflict reveals the characters' hearts in an accelerated fashion, otherwise we'd have to sit there and read through the characters' diaries!! So the role of conflict in romance is a means, not an end as in other (shonen) genres. That makes sense. Conflict reveals the characters’ hearts in an accelerated fashion, otherwise we’d have to sit there and read through the characters’ diaries!! So the role of conflict in romance is a means, not an end as in other (shonen) genres.

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